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Ann



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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:11 pm    Post subject: Ann Cleves  Reply with quote

I just finished yet another of this ladys whodunnits based in the Shetland Isles and I do find them very readable and difficult to put down. I would recommend them if anyone wants to find another author in the genre


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Caro



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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone came into the library here the other day raving about the book by Ann Cleeves she had just read.  But it was part of a series and not the first one.  I can't remember what series though.  Not her Vera one, of which I have read and enjoyed (with some reservations) a couple.


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Castorboy



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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caro wrote:
I can't remember what series though.  Not her Vera one, of which I have read and enjoyed (with some reservations) a couple.

The Vera Stanhope one I read was Hidden Depths and like you I have reservations about the writing. I did not enjoy the TV versions of the Stanhope novels which seemed to leave out essential details (or were cut to accomodate commercials) helpful to the viewer. The Shetland series with a local detecive maybe excellent as a welcome change from mainland crime cases.


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Ann



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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not tried the Vera ones but I've just come back from the library with Hidden Depths so I shall find out if I like them. The only thing I didn't like about the Shetland ones was having so much death in a small community but they are so well written I stil enjoyed them greatly.




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Green Jay



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am tempted to try these, especially as Book People have a set for a bargain price... I have seen a couple of the TV dramas and felt that the character - methods and manner - of  Vera were a bit odd and annoying, but that she probably was much better established in the books.


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Ann



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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just finished Hidden Depths.
It was quite gripping and her characterisation is good. Vera Stanhope, the police detective, is a very flawed character - she was brought up by her eccentric father who illegally collected rare bird's eggs and stuffed dead animals. She is a huge woman and very overweight with quite a drink problem. Her relationship with her second in command is interesting as he is very good at his job and she is jealous of his competance as well as finding him reliable and clever. I liked her appraisal of his interviewing technique. However I felt she almost had so many problems it interfered with the story so that the tension to find out the murderer never quite developed. I would recommend it as a good book to get out of the library but I wouldn't buy it. I found her Shetland books better


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Caro



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I go to some of these less used threads I find interesting older posts.  This one on Ann Cleeves I found compelling because we have been watching both Vera and Shetland on television recently.  I think the Vera on TV is watered down from what Ann found in the book Hidden Depths.  She does drink quite a lot, and she dresses a bit scruffily, and is quite abrupt to her underlings, but she isn't huge in the TV series.  

Shetland is interesting especially its depiction of a place rarely seen.  But the stories are often a bit convoluted (we are used to one hour murder mysteries, though we have recently watched Broadchurch and others with a longer format) and the accents are hard to follow.  Not made easier by the tendency of modern crime dramas to be dark (literally as well as metaphorically) and the speech hard to hear, not just because of the accent.  I keep saying 'stop muttering' and I am sure it is not because I am getting deaf.  My hearing still seems fine.  Bother my husband and I look at each sometimes and wonder what the words are, and though we rewind several times, we still can't pick it up.  It was the same in Broadchurch, but not Midsomer Murders or Lewis usually.

I have read at least one of Ann Cleeves' books and it might have included Hidden Depths.  It is too long ago for me to have much recollection of it.  

But we do enjoy these a lot.



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