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TheRejectAmidHair



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Green Jay wrote:
TheRejectAmidHair wrote:
I think Defoe had used unreliable narrators before Browning - Roxana, for example: it becomes increasingly obvious as we read the novel that Roxana is mentally ill.


I had to read Roxana at university and we never came to that conclusion! Mind you, I managed to get through much of the book because it was one of those editions with - instead of the chapter title or book title at the top of each page -  a very brief synopsis of that page's events. So I can't say mine was a thorough evaluation.


Ah - well, I read Roxana without the benefit of a formal classroom study, so that possibly gives me a different perspective on it!  Very Happy

The novels I have read by Defoe all inhabit so obsessively the minds of the narrator, allowing us notthe slightest glimpse of anything external to that mind, that I, for one, can't help but question the narrativ. Of all major novelists, Defoe is the one whose own individual voice I cannot discern: th eonly voice I hear is the narrator's. (All four novels that I have read, incidentally, seem to me exceptionally brilliant.)


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Green Jay



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Moll is a kind of wonderful blaguer - but I hadn't seen Roxana as that. I thought her story was true! Liked the way she put a French count and five children behind her at the start of her career, and only in later life became the most desirable courtesan!! there's hope for us all, I thought.  But we were only examining her as part of a course on the development of the novel form, so it was a pretty quick race through.


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Apple



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iwishiwas wrote:
Disappointed not to receive any books, or any cash to spend on books. However the shelves are already groaning so should not complain.
You and me both, I didn't get any apart from the photography reference books I got which my husband said he would buy me which I ordered a while ago, but considering the amount of books I have on my shelf I really didn't need any more to add to them!!




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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always hope for books under the tree at Christmas and didn't do badly this time, in numbers at least. Three Robert Wilson Javier Falcon mysteries, four (count 'em!) George RR Martin fantasy books that I understand are best sellers, but otherwise know little about. And the one I'm reading, Storm and Conquest, by Stephen Taylor. It deals with  naval activity in the Indian Ocean in 1808 and 1809. The French and the weather being the chief antagonists of the doughty British.



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