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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:08 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

This is a link to a longer thread about e-readers and e-books in general, including the Kindle, for anyone interested:

http://bigreaders.myfastforum.org/about98.html


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS - I agree, blackberrycottage.  Some people just don't understand!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just posted a reply but it didn't go anywhere, then disappeared!  Sad

I absoluely agree about books in a house - mine would not seem civilised without them.

On another note, does anyone have any comments on the newer, lighter (cheaper) Kindle, as I have been looking at them and think it may be my Christmas present this year. At least I'm being steered that way by a loved one who thinks ?present = gadget = sorted!

I know it has no keyboard but you can bring one up on the screen. I just wondered if anyone knew what it meant in terms of battery life (reading time) and book storage, in proper terms not just advertising ones.

Another thing, you don't have to keep plugging a book in to recharge it! I was a bit shocked when in the shop to see a shelf full of digital picture frames. What a good idea, I thought, since I never get round to getting my pics printed out since I went digital and fail to pass them on to older relatives who don't use pcs etc. Then I realised the damn things have to be plugged in all the time. We desperately try to save the planet in small ways, while at the same time acquiring more and more things that will wreck it.  Confused Does anyone think about all this stuff as they worry about their energy bills?

I've just talked myself out of a Kindle!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about the new Kindle, I assumed the only difference was the lack of a keyboard - but I so rarely use the keyboard anyway, apart from the navigation buttons.  Then again, I imagine at some point it would be useful to make notes, so I think I just haven't got round to using it all properly yet.

But in terms of recharging - the battery lasts a long time, especially if you don't have the wifi switched on (and you only need that if you want to download a book) - it's not like a mobile phone or a laptop, it really does last a while - I think they say a month, I haven't actually tested it, but recharging is not a major issue (unless you leave it on when you aren't using it...), and it recharges quickly.  But yes, it is another electronic gadget to add to the increasing pile of them!

And the point about having all your books on the Kindle and not as physical objects...if you lose or damage your Kindle, you have lost all your books!  Much more likely than your house burning down.  Though they are re-downloadable if that happens.

I really wouldn't have bought one if it weren't for the fact that I was expecting to do a lot of travelling.  But I do like having it now, and enjoy using it - it becomes a different reading experience in its own right, not one that I would ever want to replace real books, but still fun - unlike Apple, I find the screen very readable, just like reading a page of a book.  I only download things if they are cheaper than in hard copy, or better still, free (and there is a lot of free material), and it is amazing just to be able to click on something and it is immediately delivered to your device - so sometimes if you need something quickly it can be helpful too.

I'm also not sure why it wouldn't fit in a handbag if a paperback will - it is no bigger than a paperback, and considerably slimmer, and very light.  I am surprised to be a convert - though only as an adjunct to real books, it will never replace them for me.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackberrycottage Wrote:
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"You could get rid of all of your books"   Shocked The friend would be out of the door before the books!   Wink
Yes I know! thats exactly what I thought as well, although I think she was joking, just trying to make the point that the amount of books you can fit on it  Very Happy

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I'm also not sure why it wouldn't fit in a handbag if a paperback will - it is no bigger than a paperback, and considerably slimmer, and very light.  I am surprised to be a convert - though only as an adjunct to real books, it will never replace them for me.
I tried it and it didn't although possibly because it was someone elses and I didn't want to damage it, because it was rigid I didn't feel I could pack in all the stuff I "have" to carry around with me as well as the Kindle whereas I can with a paperback as its more flexible.

But that doesn't alter the fact I personally just didn't like the thing and I doubt I will ever be converted.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes, I can see that, Apple - about not wanting to damage it, I mean.  I have a soft case for it, but a more robust case does also increase the dimensions - obviously - so that it becomes the same sort of size and weight as a paperback.

But that is an important point, I think - if a paperback gets damaged, it really doesn't matter much - if a Kindle gets damaged, it's expensive to replace, plus, as I know I've already said, you lose all the books on it, even if only temporarily.

I see it as a gadget rather than as a new way of reading - I am sure it will become more of the latter in time (in general, I mean, not for me personally), but I see it as fun because I like gadgets and because of the travelling issue, not because it is an improvement on books - it isn't.  The humble book is still one of the finest pieces of technology available to us!

Plus, even with the travelling thing, I do like to see what other people are reading...not easy if they are reading a Kindle!  Unless you decide to get a bit more intimate than most strangers would like...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evie Wrote:
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Oh yes, I can see that, Apple - about not wanting to damage it, I mean.  I have a soft case for it, but a more robust case does also increase the dimensions - obviously - so that it becomes the same sort of size and weight as a paperback.

But that is an important point, I think - if a paperback gets damaged, it really doesn't matter much - if a Kindle gets damaged, it's expensive to replace, plus, as I know I've already said, you lose all the books on it, even if only temporarily.

I see it as a gadget rather than as a new way of reading - I am sure it will become more of the latter in time (in general, I mean, not for me personally), but I see it as fun because I like gadgets and because of the travelling issue, not because it is an improvement on books - it isn't.  The humble book is still one of the finest pieces of technology available to us!

Plus, even with the travelling thing, I do like to see what other people are reading...not easy if they are reading a Kindle!  Unless you decide to get a bit more intimate than most strangers would like...
If you lose all the books on it do you have to pay for them again to get them back when your Kindle is replaced/mended? (I think I have asked this question before somewhere, but I can't remember)

I like gadgets as well so I am more than surprised that I don't like the Kindle, and so is my husband, he was convinced he would be buying me one at some stage when they first came out!!

I hate it when people try and see what I am reading when I am reading a book in public, I think it's down to the fact at work I have literally had the book taken from my hands by people who want to see what it is I am reading, instead of just asking!! I have also had people sit and read over my shoulder as well in past which is seriously irritating!!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't tested the system, but Amazon claim they keep all the things you order so that you can retrieve them for free if anything goes wrong with the Kindle.

As for what other people are reading - I do agree that intrusiveness is horrid!  But I always check out the covers of books people are reading near me on the train - and feel very frustrated if it isn't visible!  Just very nosy...  :0)


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My kindle got damaged on holiday and Amazon replaced it immediately at no cost and I was easily able to download the books again. I was impressed - though I do prefer books and the fact it got damaged makes me wary of it.



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