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Caro



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:48 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

I find it hard to believe how innocent we were.  I am not sure I can manage this story without getting more explicit than is needed here, but when I was 15 I came across a book at home with a title like "Love, Marriage and the Family" which my parents must have used for assistance in these matters.  My father allowed me to take it to my hostel with the proviso that I didn't let my grandmother notice.  

At night I would read it aloud to the girls in my dormitory who were 15 and 16 year olds.  We found it absolutely hilarious and gross - women were expected to touch their husband's private parts!!  Embarassed  This was beyond our comprehension and certainly well beyond our experience.  

Sorry about this!  But it seems a world away from 16-year-olds now.

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Melony



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't crocodile fashion how the "12 little girls in 2 straight lines, the youngest one was Madeline..." (Bemelmans) walked?

Well, which dictionary was this, dammit, we must look up more words.  I'm serious.  If oral sex is in there, what else is?  I'm sort of disturbed that it is in the dictionary...is missionary position?  I mean, what's the point?  Am I being Puritanical?  Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walking in crocodile...the world is full of wonders still. Thanks for enlightening me, but what are 'the hostel kids'? Clearly kids who stayed in a hostel environment. Was it a boarding school?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was (and is) an ordinary single-sex state school (quite common in NZ).  It was in the city of Invercargill which services a wide area of relatively wealthy farming families.  In those days, especially, there were not a lot of other secondary schools around, and about 100 of the 600 pupils boarded. We were the hostel kids/girls.  Some boarded full time and went home just for holidays, some like me were week-day boarders and bussed home at the end of the week.  We went by bus back to school on Mondays but the bus was just an ordinary passenger bus and didn't get there till 10.30am, so every Monday I missed the first two periods of school.  (As did quite a lot of other kids.)  Didn't seem to suffer much for it.

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MikeAlx



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caro, how strange to have grown up on a farm and yet been innocent of such matters!

My parents, in keeping with the Dr Spock generation ethos, were very open about sex; so when my older brother (aged 4 or 5) asked where he came from they told him. He burst out laughing and refused to believe them. When, finally, he was convinced, he said "If I'm very good and quiet, can I watch?"

We had a children's book that explained all about gender differences and pubity and where babies come from. But I think by the time I was 12 I'd forgotten all about it, and instead got my education from that ever-reliable source, playground rumours.  Wink Took years to recover!



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was given a very informative Christmas present called Encyclopaedia of Knowledge by my staid and Presbyterian paternal grandparents when I was seven, which I am convinced they would not have given me if they had inspected it thoroughly. There was a special section at the back on the human body, including detailed diagrams of procreation etc.

At about the same time, my family got its first word processor, an Amstrad that would look pathetic by today's standards, though one could play hangman and reversi, which was tremendously exciting at the time. I distinctly remember an occasion where I was practising my keyboard skills by copying out a passage from the section in question, which contained the phrase "pleasurable sexual sensations", when an elderly neighbour came round. I continued writing, whether oblivious to the possibility of being discovered or not I can't remember, though I do recall my mother's mortification that the old lady might have looked over my shoulder and seen what I was writing. My parents themselves wouldn't have censored me, though.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I would have been more embarrassed by the Amstrad.  Wink



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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very interesting topic, it is debated greatly the rights and wrongs of sexual information and how much is too much etc.

In some ways it is good children have the facts but basic information at an early age can't do any harm, in fact I think it can do good, for example young children taught how their bodies work and what bits are what and that their bodies are special and personal to them is a good thing without over emphasis on the sexual parts but gives them the knowledge then to realise when adults sometimes volate that special place that it is wrong and they shouldn't be doing it and to make sure someone is told and it is put a stop to. Not that it is something which is natural and they should put up with.  I have always been totally honest and open with my kids and any question they have raised about sexual matters I have answered them honestly and openly and explained it to them and made sure they have understood not only the physical definition of what they are asking but the physical consequences of such actions and emotional aspects as well.

Going back to the original post, the banning of a dictionary is hardly going to stem the flow of information in this world of the internet and I would guarantee if a curious child was to type in the word "SEX" into google they would come up with a damn sight worse than a definition of oral sex!! With that in mind isn't it better to be on hand and tackle these issues head on rather than push them under the carpet as though they ar dirty and not for young eyes.



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