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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:06 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

This is a nice idea, but I'm totally at sea. I'll just say that the prison piece is almost certainly not Papillon and that when reading 'D' I though of John Steinbeck - probably only because of the time period and the apparent setting in California. I've read too little Steinbeck to have even a half decent recollection of his style.
The others? Not a clue in the world. I look forward to Friday's revelation.


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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the Papillon thing was a bit of a joke (though I haven't read it, only seen the film). I do know you didn't generally wind up on Devil's Island until after your trial!



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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RN Singer wrote:
This is a nice idea, but I'm totally at sea. I'll just say that the prison piece is almost certainly not Papillon and that when reading 'D' I though of John Steinbeck - probably only because of the time period and the apparent setting in California. I've read too little Steinbeck to have even a half decent recollection of his style.
The others? Not a clue in the world. I look forward to Friday's revelation.


It's ok because the point of the exercise is actually to talk about the pieces and how literary they are and how much you enjoyed them.  And then to rate them from A to D.

IT IS NOT A GAME OF GUESS THE AUTHOR, PEOPLE!     Laughing

As all the regulars should know!  

So RN, if you want to have a go, help yourself.  You don't need to know the name of the author.



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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Miranda I have neglected these and all serious reading this week as I'm suffering with sinusitis (I blame the nice weather Sad ) but here I go.

A) Oh dear I did think of Henry James. I thought of all the faults that others complain of in his writing but unlike James' prose this seems very unpolished. Everything is ponderously over-described with unneccessary padding turning the longer sentences into an obstacle course, even I can write like  that.
If the house fronts onto a piazza where is the gate that the olives are "outside of"!? Ah further on we find the garden and terrace are at the rear it must be there but why mention in the first place?
Is this an early piece by an author who later learned to edit and polish? It could be from anytime in the last 150 years, literary maybe, at least it's an attempt.

B) This gives a workmanlike account of the prisoner's obsessive mind but nothing is described in detail only a handful of adjectives are used in the whole excerpt.
I think it is post 1950s a good story but not literature.

C) An interesting passage fully entering into the child's (why never "the boy"?) fantasy and concentration. Not overwritten so intense but not menacing I can't decide on a genre could it be a memoir? Probably literary.

D) A fun read, M seems to be a cop not a private dick. I like this but wouldn't expect it to be great literature.

Literary ACBD

Personal preference DCAB


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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On reading the whole thread I notice Caro mentioned SF for excerpt B. I had a vague thought that it might be an alternative history but then dismissed it.

Also like Mike, to me A. became more interesting on each re-read.


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks County Lady, and if you'd had sinusitis then you have my forgiveness and sympathy.  I get that and the pain is horrendous!   Do you feel like your eyes are being pushed out from the inside?  And the back of your neck is being squeezed in a vice?   And your head is full of concrete?



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miranda wrote:
Thanks County Lady, and if you'd had sinusitis then you have my forgiveness and sympathy.  I get that and the pain is horrendous!   Do you feel like your eyes are being pushed out from the inside?  And the back of your neck is being squeezed in a vice?   And your head is full of concrete?


Laughing All of that plus my ears and teeth ache and every noise echoes!


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And when you turn your head the concrete moves!     Laughing

Don't know why we're laughing, it's bloody agony!



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miranda wrote:
And when you turn your head the concrete moves!    


Hmm... I'm not too sure about the rhythm of the prose here. The sentence seems underpunctuated. It may be Faulkner, but he'd never write a sentence so short. Given that the sentence starts with the word "and", I'd guess the writer is that bloody useless blogger Chatterjee.

And yes, it's definitely literary.


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful example of iambic pentameter, whoever it's by.



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