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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: A question for Chibiabos...  Reply with quote

Hello, I was looking through the books on my shelf the other day, (I'm still purging!) and came across Nana by Emile Zola (which I thought had long gone considering the fact I didn't like it), anyway back to the point, it jogged my memory and I remembered that you had acquired Germinal around the same time I was reading Nana (during the Big Readers cup thing a couple of years ago) and I was just wondering if you had ever got around to reading it yet and if so what you thought of it as that one actually triggered a flicker of interest in me when I read the write up about it, (It was the one about the miners wasn't it?) I've still yet to acquire a copy, but it just got me wondering this then got me thinking of another book which I had mentioned and you said you had managed to acquire shortly after - There is a happy land by Keith Waterhouse, this one is one which I regard highly if you remember and I was wondering if you had got around to reading that one as well and what you thought of it if you had?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read neither of them yet, but I will start the Keith Waterhouse today in the spirit of appeasement  Smile  Have just finished one book and hadn't decided what to read next, so you have helped me choose!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think my use of the word appeasement may have been inaccurate. I don't regard you as an enemy...


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chibiabos83 wrote:
I think my use of the word appeasement may have been inaccurate. I don't regard you as an enemy...
Glad to hear it  Very Happy

My reason for posting this was I was genuinely interested in Germinal, as despite the fact I loathed Nana, there was something about the write up of Germinal which attracted me.

I'm pretty convinced you will love There is a happy land, (although its been a while since I read it) for a childrens book and an old childrens book at that, the way it handles the subject matter which is at times quite upsetting is very good. Its one of the few books which covers the whole range of emotions had me laughing and then also had me crying.


*(By the way you said you wanted someone to remind you to post a comment on the "How this board has changed you" thread - so consider yourself duly reminded!!)  Wink




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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, I haven't forgotten it entirely, it's just there are so many other distractions. Will try and put something together later today... As for Germinal, there are certainly other people on this board who would recommend it most strongly. I'll try to get round to it this year - I've only read one Zola before, and that was too long ago.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't stand Nana either, but bought Germinal and The Kill a while ago and wouldn't mind reading Germinal again. I had a splurge of Zola some 20 years ago, owning about eight although I am not sure that I read them all.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read 8 novels of the Rougon-Macquart series (there are 20 in all), and only one of them (Au Bonheur des Dames) I found a bit disappointing. The others are all masterpieces - including Nana, which I sometimes (depending on my mood) nominate as my favourite. There is so much to admire in that novel - not least his convincing description of sexual passion, and also his ability to comunicate sexual allure.

Given his prodigious output, I am quite taken aback by Zola's consistency.  In each novel he goes into different territory, but he is always in perfect control of his material.



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes we debated all that in the Big Readers Cup as I remember, but really didn't like that story at all, but each to their own!  I think it was during that, that Chibiabos got Germinal, I wish I had managed to get Germinal instead of Nana but you have to admit finding that was lucky considering I got it from a charity shop!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chibiabos wrote:
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I've read neither of them yet, but I will start the Keith Waterhouse today in the spirit of appeasement    Have just finished one book and hadn't decided what to read next, so you have helped me choose!
How are you getting on with There is a happy land?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My thoughts on that book are on this page: http://bigreaders.myfastforum.org/ftopic1744-0-asc-10.php



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