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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:36 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Gareth, you should ask Stephen Fry (who loves his gadgets...!!) whether he has a solution to the signing problem with electronic books.   Cool


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure I'll be entirely tongue-tied and in a queue of about 1000 people, but I will attempt to bear it in mind while I'm fretting about not being able to remember my own name. Of course, I suppose he could sign an e-book reader on the back, but then if you go to a lot of signings there will come a point when you run out of space.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which will give a whole new meaning to the Space Race computer


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may be of interest that the final instalment of Stieg Larsson's crime trilogy sold more e-book editions than hardbacks - over 1 million in fact. This is believed to be the first mainstream book to do so.

Also, at the last Frankfurt Book Fair, over 40% of book buying professionals surveyed believed that ebooks will be outselling printed books generally within a decade.

At present the overall pattern is that printed book sales are staying static, whilst ebook sales are doubling every year.



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My current objection to ebooks probably shows how much of a luddite I am, but aren't we always told to keep backups of electronic data we want to keep? In the form of MP3s, my backups are CDs; does this mean that for ebooks I still need a copy of the book?!

Other people have mentioned the luxury editions and I notice in the most recent LRB there's a review of a new edition of Finnegan's Wake, £250 for illustrations, notes, etc with a link to an E-version showing textual glosses, variants, copies of previous usages etc. This may well be the future.

Mostly, though, I think the main problem here is the same as the great CD swindle - ie, every few years there's a new format coming out for music: vinyl, then tape, then minidisc and CD and MP3 and so on, each time necessitating a purchase of the same piece of music on a new format. Then lo and behold, vinyl comes back 'in'......!

Oh, and as far as searchability goes I find there's no substitute for a good memory, a notebook, and (shock! horror!) underlining things in the book........


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent post, Billy the Fish! I agree with you wholeheartedly!

I have one day off tomorrow before returningto work, and I plan to spend it in the Malt Whisky Society with one of those beautiful Library of America editions of Herman Melville's late fiction. It just wouldn't be the same sitting there with some electronic screen!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Kindle looks wonderful, but many of us have an emotional attachment to books that you just wouldn't get with an electronic reader.  I also like having books around the house.

Mike raises some interesting points, but I'd only want a Kindle as a space saver if I was going travelling for a year (unlikely, alas).  They are more environmentally friendly thought, I'll give you that.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheRejectAmidHair wrote:
I have one day off tomorrow before returning to work, and I plan to spend it in the Malt Whisky Society with one of those beautiful Library of America editions of Herman Melville's late fiction. It just wouldn't be the same sitting there with some electronic screen!

I suppose the Southern Hemisphere equivalent is sitting in the sun at 7 o'clock in the evening, a temp. of 23 degrees and a glass of Pinot Gris (Riverstone Vineyards, Auckland) and a Wodehouse in hand surrounded by dusky maidens (those last two words are a fantasy but still possible in the Pacific – I wish!).

Having spent part of the afternoon listening to Mozart on Radio 3, my big decision is do I move my chair to follow the sun before pouring another glass or should I pour the glass FIRST and then move the chair?

(Why didn't one of  the literary critics after the war tell me about the quality of  the Wodehouse prose? I dutifuly followed their advice and read Maugham, Conrad, Orwell, Huxley, D H Lawrence but where was the champion of P G?
I gathered the impressiion that he was the English equivalent of William Joyce and that to read Wodehouse was to be a traitor to all the values that Churchill had striven for all those war years).
If I have got those facts wrong, I claim the Himadri Defence, in that if I did any research there wouldn't be time to post anything!

Must stop waffling – the smugness about the climate rises as the pinot gris goes down – here's to another year of tactile books rather than the virtual ones, excluding those Seasonal Shorts which are inventive.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must admit that I am gradually being won over to ebook readers - partly because I am away from home for two months of every year, and a month of that travelling which means weight and space in my luggage are at a premium; but also because I do love gadgets!  I was teaching on a course in Oxford last year, and a student mentioned a reference in a Hardy novel related to something we were looking at; he very quickly found the reference on his Kindle, having recently purchased the complete novels of Hardy for his device.  The chances of having the right book available in hard copy at such a moment are slim!  I know that's just a minor advantage in this context, but I can see that in learning situations (as I am a teacher), it could be very useful to have such easy access to a high number of texts (the Kindle can store up to 3500 books).

So when I am travelling, it would solve my annual dilemma of which book(s) to take, and the slight anxiety over taking something I end up not enjoying and then being without a book!

It will never replace a hardcopy book in my life, but as a complement to my conventional books, I can see it won't be long before I splash out on an ebook reader...


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see advantages too, but won't buy until the economics shift a little (ie a lower price point). Part of the reason is that despite my best efforts I keep acquiring more books than I have space to store accessibly, and most of which I'll probably never read again.

I think the future will be mixed media for a while, because there are certainly books I would rather have a hardcopy of - for example, the beautifully-produced Alasdair Gray: A Life in Pictures which I got for Christmas. And art books in general, really - even an iPad wouldn't do them justice. Rather inconveniently, they also tend to be the books that don't fit on most shelves!




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