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Evie
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:14 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

'Half two' is a horrible phrase anyway - vulgar, and best avoided, in my opinion!  Cool


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evilgiraffe



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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So "quarter of" does mean "quarter to", then?  I shall go into Stephen King books forearmed from now on!  He drives me up the wall with other American phrases too, especially brand names - I end up googling all kinds of things just to work out what he's talking about.  Often it's easy to guess from context, but it jars all the same.


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Evie
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose that being American, he is bound to use American phrases and brand names...   Wink


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evilgiraffe



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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How hard is it to use generic descriptions, though?  Why alienate so many readers by using brand names?  I suppose I have now increased my knowledge, but to be honest I didn't really need to know what Advil and Kool-Aid were.  He's particularly bad for doing it with food items, which are all completely mysterious to me.  I don't find this an issue with many other American authors, so King must be particularly bad!


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walkers (I had to check there's no apostrophe, given what I'm about to write) have (or indeed has) brought out a range of national-themed crisps to coincide with the World Cup, one of which is "Argentinean Flame Grilled Steak". As I see it, there's not only a missing hyphen there but also a typo. Argentine, fine; Argentinian, no problemo; Argentinean? Even OED doesn't give it as a variant.

And King's College has finally, after countless years spent flouting convention, replaced the multilingual "Keep off the grass" sign which had an Italian spelling error ('calplestare' for 'calpestare'). Unfortunately the new one has a French spelling error ('peloses' for 'pelouses'). You can't win!


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TheRejectAmidHair



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chibiabos83 wrote:
And King's College has finally, after countless years spent flouting convention, replaced the multilingual "Keep off the grass" sign which had an Italian spelling error ('calplestare' for 'calpestare'). Unfortunately the new one has a French spelling error ('peloses' for 'pelouses'). You can't win!


Maybe the sign-writers have been over-indulging on the grass themselves...


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Chibiabos83
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it can't be grass from King's - only fellows are allowed access to it...


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Green Jay



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having just read another Tim Winton book, I was struck by the number of words I didn't (really) understand. Some of it was surfing-argot, and some of it was just Australian.  I could have down with a glossary. And so many abbreviations! I think Australians must love knocking the ends off words of everyday things?!  Confused  E.g. Kero = kerosene, I assume.  What is a servo?  A petrol station, I think, but I could be wrong.

Here's one sentence that I just couldn't understand. "I rode out to the rivermouth and back flat-strap."


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Joe McWilliams



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been six years since Green Jay asked that last question in this lively and interesting discussion. And I still don't have an answer!
I did read through the whole thread just now and enjoyed it very much.

Now I'm going to Google 'flat-strap' and see what comes up...


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Caro



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presume it is what we (or maybe just I) call "flat-out" or is that a NZism?  I don't think so.  I read the first page of this and the last three and understand its fascination for you, Joe.  But I don't think I have time to read all the fascinating threads on this board.  I did see another thread I intended to read but I can't remember where it was now.



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