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Apple

The Beautiful Game

Any football fans on here?? (or soccer if you are from the other side of the pond!)

I'm not a big football person in the normal run of things but I do like the World Cup and will watch when England plays.  I have also done the patriotic thing and hung an England flag on my house.
Chibiabos83

I love football, but this World Cup has been dire so far! Perhaps the Brazilians can get it kick-started tonight. I've never been an England fan in particular, not for football or any other sport - perhaps because as a child I always considered myself more Scottish than English, having been born in Edinburgh (and having a Welsh father confused things further) - but I'd like to see them do well this year. I presume they'll make it through the group, but their priority should be to avoid Germany in Round 2...
Apple

The one thing that is really bugging me though with the coverage this time is those bloody Vuvuzela things the noise that constant droning like a swarm of wasps really gets on your nerves!! You just can't ignore it, because its there all the while.
Caro

We have become very keen on what I insist on calling soccer (but it seems to be a losing battle) here in NZ, and today there is nothing on the radio but our draw against Slovakia, which might not sound a great result to you, but is the first time we have won a point in the World Cup, so everyone here is absolutely ecstatic.

Cheers, Caro.
Chibiabos83

I was thinking of you when the last-minute equaliser went in, Caro. Sounds like the NZ team is confounding expectations. Maybe it won't be their last point of the tournament...

Well, Brazil didn't exactly set the world alight, but tonight's match was the best one I've seen so far, and a lot of that, against all expectations, was down to North Korea. At least their goal has introduced a romantic element to the competition.
Jen M

I will probably watch the England games, although was not able to see Saturday's game live.  I drew Argentina and Chile in the office sweepstake; and was pleased to see Argentina win (sorry folks).

I bought some car flags, but have discovered that our car windows have a sensor to stop you trapping your fingers in the window, which means that as soon as the electric windows close on the flag 'poles', they open again.  I feel quite chuffed that our Y reg car is that sophisticated (unlike the likes of the 05 varieties that my neighbours drive), but I did want to fly my flags.
Apple

Jen - My husbands car has that and he has got round it, on yours have you got a drivers control for the back windows where you can effectively lock them, if you have you can fly your flags but its a bit fiddly and takes split second timing and takes two people one to hold the flag in place and one at the control panel and as soon as the window hits the top before it starts to undo, the other person hits the lock button for the rear windows to stop them being opened. †Whoever sits in the back cannot open the windows but if you have got flags on your windows they can't be opened anyway!!

I watched the Brazil/Korea match and was less than impressed by Brazil's performance I thought Korea did really well !!
Evie

Ooh - anyone else getting a picture of David Beckham at the top of their screen?  Some ad or other, don't care what it's for...but it can stay there as long as it likes!   love4
Apple

Evie Wrote:
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Ooh - anyone else getting a picture of David Beckham at the top of their screen?
No - thank god!!
kitsumehime

I had never seen a "football" game before the telecasts of this year's World Cup" and quite frankly I was expecting something a bit more exciting.  As far as I can tell, the prevailing strategy seems to be to keep possession of the ball as long as possible to prevent the opposite team from scoring rather than trying to score for your own team.  Just watching grown men in shorts passing the ball back and forth and forth and back without trying to score seems a bit underwhelming.

However, I must admit that all the players seem to be quite fit.

Now if they could only confiscate those damned horns at the admissions gate...
Apple

Just one thing...

Chibiabos Wrote:
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I always considered myself more Scottish than English, having been born in Edinburgh (and having a Welsh father confused things further)
Do you like Rugby if so who the hell do you support in the Rugby six nations? †Very Happy
Chibiabos83

Scotland in the Six Nations. That's less problematic. When I was quite young my aunt (Welsh, but living in Scotland - naturally...) bought me a Scotland rugby shirt, which I loved wearing. In fact, that's where a lot of my sense of Scottishness probably comes from. But if they're not playing I'm very keen on France and Ireland. I'm not exactly what you could call a patriot...
Apple

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I'm not exactly what you could call a patriot...
Laughing
Jen M

Apple wrote:
Jen - My husbands car has that and he has got round it, on yours have you got a drivers control for the back windows where you can effectively lock them, if you have you can fly your flags but its a bit fiddly and takes split second timing and takes two people one to hold the flag in place and one at the control panel and as soon as the window hits the top before it starts to undo, the other person hits the lock button for the rear windows to stop them being opened. †Whoever sits in the back cannot open the windows but if you have got flags on your windows they can't be opened anyway!!


Thanks for the suggestion, Apple, I hadn't thought of that.  We do have that on our car and the kids get really annoyed by it!  I doubt they'd co-operate in this.

I heard on the radio that flying flags reduces petrol consumption by 3-6 mpg!  I'm already shocked at the cost of petrol, so it's a bit of a sacrifice to fly flags.   Confused
Apple

Jen Wrote:
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I heard on the radio that flying flags reduces petrol consumption by 3-6 mpg!  I'm already shocked at the cost of petrol, so it's a bit of a sacrifice to fly flags.
Being patriotic has its cost!!  Wink

Just out of interest did you know that opening your window also reduces petrol efficiency!
TheRejectAmidHair

Many of the footballers in this World Cup have rather interesting names, I think, and I was wondering if we could get a bit creative with these names. Could we, for instance, think up a sentence using the names of the footballers Enyema, Crouch, Shittu, Messi and Odiah?
Evie

Odiah, Messi Shittu when I Crouch - no more Enyema!

(Sorry.)
Caro

It's too easy, isn't it, Evie!
TheRejectAmidHair

...and where's Ufarte when you need him?

(I do raise the tone of the conversation here, don't I?  Wink )
Chibiabos83

This used to be a family-friendly board, but today it seems to have gone down the pan.
Apple

Laughing You can't beat a bit of toilet humour!! pottytrain5
TheRejectAmidHair

A friend reminds me that there's a Korean player called Kwak.

And there's Kaka, of course.
Chibiabos83

I think I heard Clive Tyldesley the other night say something like "Kaka, floating in the middle..." and thought, he's been spending too much time in his hotel bathroom.

I'm sorry, this really must end.
TheRejectAmidHair

Why? I'm enjoying this!
Caro

Kaka in New Zealand is a name (Maori) for one of our loveliest birds - a large parrot.  http://www.google.co.nz/images?hl...=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

I was a bit anxious when I googled kaka images - but the first lot were all of the footballers.  Had to add parrot to get these.

Cheers, Caro.
blackberrycottage

Nice one New Zealand. Well clung on against Italy. The first match I have seen when I can actually recognise players, as a fair portion of New Zealand played for Barnsley in the past. I really enjoyed that game.
Caro

We are absolutely euphoric here, balckberry cottage.  My family (not me so me) are football mad so we were up in the middle of the night watching.  Expecting a 4 - 0 drubbing but getting a goal almost immediately!  Maybe nearly off-side but... BUT they got a penalty for nothing much - in comparison with what I have seen Wayne Rooney do.

You won't have seen all our players - one at least is a banker and had to get special dispensation from his job to be allowed to travel and play.  My husband did some supply teaching at Barnsley and my son now has a new job teaching at Barnsley (he was teaching at Sheffield).

Cheers, Caro.
blackberrycottage

Hello Caro,
The commentators were saying that is the first banker for a long time who has made people happy! Where is your son teaching? We seem to have a lot of schools round here under special measures, as well as a major building programme. How they measure them and decide they are "failing" is beyond me though.
Apple

Now THAT was more like it!! but why didn't they play like that the last two times!  cheers
blackberrycottage

It was still hard work watching. Phew. Roll on Sunday...........
Caro

Blackberrycottage,

I am just not quite sure of the name of my son's new school (he doesn't actually start there till September).  It's not Holgate because that is where my husband did some supply teaching and I know they aren't going to be at the same school.  It isn't a primary school or a religious school, so that seems to leave Kingstone or Dalton.  You'd think I could remember which of those it would be but I don't seem to.

Cheers, Caro.
blackberrycottage

Hello Caro,
How bizarre. I have hundreds of Holgate pupils go past my house every day. Holgate and Kingstone are merging and they are building a new school at the back of Holgate. Actually most of the local senior schools are merging into joint new buildings, including the couple which were only built 30 or 40 years ago, rather than the 1920s or earlier.
Jen M

Phew!  Germany next.  Anyone else think that the German manager looks like Prof Brian Cox?
blackberrycottage

As long as he goes home singing "Things Can Only get Better".
Jen M

blackberrycottage wrote:
As long as he goes home singing "Things Can Only get Better".


Very Happy
Apple

Oh dear oh dear oh dear  Sad

Well lets just face facts, England isn't good enough, even if their disallowed goal had been allowed (and it was obvious it was in by a mile!) there is still the small matter that Germany still scored more than us.
Chibiabos83

Yes, they needed a little more luck and a lot more class today. With any luck the controversies in both of today's matches will lead to national football associations petitioning FIFA for a rule change. It's ridiculous that this positive technology is ignored so resolutely, particularly when you look at how little adverse effect the use of instant replays has had on rugby, tennis, cricket or any other sport you can name.

I really like this young German team and would love to see them or the Dutch (my outside hunch before the tournament started) win, but the Argentinians are looking ominous after tonight's performance. I'll be interested to see how the tournament progresses. By this time next week perhaps the focus in the TV studios will move away from the England team slightly. I know we're in Britain, but they talk about little else than England England England during the breaks in every match...
Caro

I completely agree with all that, Gareth.  It is my opinion (based on very little) that Fifa don't want to bring in video technology because they actually like the controversies these wrong decisions make and the chatter it causes.  

My husband always argues against video replays for what I see as spurious reasons.  "It will slow the game down."  Well, some of the games I have seen couldn't have been much slower; one of NZ's games we could all (including the players)  have gone away for a cup of tea and not missed a thing.  "Lots of other decisions are wrong - what about the dive that brought Italy a penalty against NZ?" is his next objection.  I think there is a difference between that sort of interpretation and a purely decision.  I think his main real reason is that it goes against tradition.  

Cheers, Caro.
Evie

It was a bit ludicrous that the rest of the world could see immediately that the goal was in but none of the officials could.  It wouldn't slow down the game by much - and as for the idea that Fifa have put forward, that part of the fun of football is discussing the contentious points, that is balanced by how much fun it is at Wimbledon, in test matches, and in rugby as the fans wait for the decision from whatever technology they are using.

It wouldn't even need technology in football - just a couple of extra linesmen, strategically placed, would have resolved both of last night's goal problems!

Still, the goal grievance can't hide the fact that England lost fair and square to a team who simply played a lot better than they did.
Caro

Hi Evie,

I have been wondering why we haven't been having your company recently and thought perhaps I had missed you going on holiday or something.  Nice to see you back here again.

It is silly that things like goals and off-side can't be far more accurate, in my opinion.
(Off out now for my sport - indoor bowls, just taken up this season, but I'm doing all right!)
Cheers, Caro.
MikeAlx

I've been an advocate of video replays, rugby-style, for many years. Last night, Argentina's first goal was clearly off-side. To add to the irony, it was replayed on the big screen in the stadium, so everyone - both teams plus the ref and linesmen - could plainly see it was offside. Yet it had to stand.

Argentina could win the tournament - they have fantastic goal-scorers - but they do look a bit weak at the back. Germany may upset them, though I don't think they're as good as we made them look. They look vulnerable facing set-pieces, and remember we did beat them in Berlin some 6 months back. My best guess is Brazil or Spain to win, though I'm tempted to have a flutter on the Dutch.
Castorboy

Watching the flamboyant antics when a goal is scored I canít help wondering if one of these days a player will make a mistake. So, with a nod to Bulwer-Lytton,

With one bound he spread his knees wide, his arms similarly outstretched above his head, and slid along the turf but his joy was short-lived as with panic and humiliation rising in his throat like a dodgy vindaloo, he straddled the corner flagpole, his cry of anguish drowned in the cheers and groans of the crowd as it acknowledged both his goal and the direction he was heading.
Evie

Here is a link to the wonderful Monty Python sketch where the Greek philosophers play the German philosophers at football, with Confucius as the referee - great stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur5fGSBsfq8&feature=related
Castorboy

That's a great link Evie - I'd never seen it before so I'll have to add it to my Favourites.
blackberrycottage

May I send Best Wishes to Blackpool FC as they start their awfully big adventure.
Caro

I see Blackpool's rise into the Premiership being called a fairytale and other such words that I read as meaning ' are out of their league'.  

My husband has decided to hold a family competition (feel free to join with your suggestions) where we put all the teams into the order they finish, ie 1 - 20.  I did not put Blackpool in the final three, not did I put Manchester United at the top, as I allow sentiment to dictate choices at times.  (My husband has managed to complicate his scoring by having a weigh-in after 10 games and then another half-way through.  And we have to choose where Ipswich (my son's team) will finish in the Championship!)

Cheers, Caro.
Mikeharvey

I live in Blackpool and, though I'm not especally interested in football, nevertheless I wish our local team every success.....
Apple

They won the first match of the season today 4-0 against Wigan (I think)
Caro

Top of the premier league then.
Evie

They are second to Chelsea on goal difference (Chelsea managed 6!) - not for long, I am sure, since Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool have yet to play, but it's great to see them up there for now!
Chibiabos83

Poor old Wigan, though - if they play like they did against Blackpool every week they are utterly doomed. I know I should be used to Chelsea being good by now, but I can't shake a feeling that may be a relic from as long ago as the Glenn Hoddle days or even earlier that at any moment they are likely to disappoint. It makes the 6-0 wins all the more unexpected and gratifying, though. Still fancy Man U for the title this year. Fingers crossed for a good season for Newcastle - I'm hoping they and West Brom at least can do enough to stay up. They should be able to, I think.
Caro

I know nothing about West Brom - including where they come from - so I happily put them last in my list.  But I have favourable vibes about Newcastle for no reason at all, so they are a little higher up (13th). I didn't want to put Wigan down low because they have hung on in there the last couple of seasons.  So my bottom three are West Bromich, Birmingham City (I didn't like Birmingham when we were there!), and Bolton Wanderers.  I do have Chelsea No 1.  

Cheers, Caro.

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