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Caro

Stephanie Meyer

My intelligent feminist feisty atheist daughter-in-law was reading the Stephenie Meyers series when she was here (it took her about a day to read one of them).  I couldn't see what the appeal could be in a vampire romance and I don't think she managed to explain this to me.  (For one thing she would have been wanting to downplay any enjoyment she was getting.  My ds-i-law all surprise me by seeming to know every bit of celebrity gossip going, while none of them ever buy a woman's magazine)

This morning the book review on the radio was off one of these - reviewed by a middle-aged man.  He was full of doubts about these - the girl in them does everything in order to please a man.  As the father of a teenage daughter he didn't at all like the message this gave girls.  He also was a little concerned that Meyer is a strong committed Mormon with the attitudes that go with this which, he felt, didn't give a realistic view of life these days.  He also said they were badly written with far too many adjectives and adverbs.

I don't read fantasy of any sort really, and though I am quite fond of romance this holds out no appeal for me at all.  The reviewer said he understood the appeal to teenagers but wondered why so many married women in their 30s seem to enjoy them.  He decided it was definitely a gender thing and men didn't get it.  

Have any of you or your children read these?  Are they as awful as I imagine.

Cheers, Caro.
lunababymoonchild

Melony, formerly LatinaMagistra, has read at least one of these, having had them recommended by her students.  As I recall, she enjoyed what she read but clearly it would be better coming from her!

Luna
Apple

A couple of the girls at work told me I MUST read Twilight as it was and I quote "the best book ever written" sadly I did not agree I enjoy a good fantasy and have a soft spot for vampire stories (I used to love watching the Buffy the Vampire slayer series - a real park your brain at the door and enjoy series, which had some extremely well written episodes, especially the very sensitive one where the girls are struggling to cope after Buffy's mother dies).

Anyway back to the book, no I thought it was a load of complete drivel readable and ever so slightly entertaining in places but drivel none the less, the girl was totally submissive as said in the previous review she did everything to please the man - in fact she made you ashamed to be a female no I didn't like them at all.
Thursday Next

I am reading Twilight at the moment, after it was recommended by someone on a film forum I post on. However some of my online friends who have read it came up with exactly the criticisms mentioned here - badly written (owning a thesaurus does not make you a good writer, was one comment, and the lead character was too submissive in what is almost a violent relationship where the 'hero' expects the heroine to do as he says all the time and abstain from sex and she basically needs rescuing all the time. Not very feminist friendly was their view. Not like Buffy at all, she kicked ass all the time Wink Although I haven't read enough to give my own opinion yet, this is just hearsay...
Klara Z

I love Gothic and supernatural fiction, and I read the first book in the Stefenie Meyer tetralogy, i.e 'Twilight' when it first came out. I remember enjoying it, but feeling that it was very much for the teenage market, not a 'crossover' book that could also be enjoyed by adults. Then the next three books in the series appeared, and my teenage daughter was hooked on them--reading them over and over. I, on the other hand, was not hooked----although I do enjoy vampire themes (mainly the classics---Bram Stoker and Le Fanu etc, although I was a 'Buffy' fan) these just didn't grip. I found †the writing style tedious, long winded and not very elegant at all----long pieces of dialogue, getting no where etc.

Basically, these books are really about teenage sexuality---and I know very few people over the age of twenty who've liked them. I've not yet read the final book in the series---and I'm not in a great hurry to do so!
Did see the film with teenage daughter, though.....can see why I'd love it if I was still 15!!!
Sandraseahorse

I read in today's "Sunday Telegraph" that Meyer's second book, "New Moon", is set in Volterra, Italy, and filming will take place there this year for the follow up to "Twilight".

I was interested as we spent our honeymoon touring Tuscany and stayed at Volterra.  The place  was lovely but it did have a very strange atmosphere. I think it is the setting; there has been a lot of subsidence around it and it is on a cliff, surrounding by a strange, almost lunar landscape.
Freyda

A friend's daughter aged 20 is reading this, as recommended by her big sister, now living away from home. They are both very bright girls, so I find this a bit worrying. Not that I've read it - not my thing at all - but all the comment I have heard on radio and read is much in line with what has been said above - submissive, stereotypical old fashioned "feminine" behaviour required, not a good role model, and nothing like the fiesty girl Buffy was. I wasn't aware of the Mormon connection.

Oh well, perhaps I shouldn't criticise them if it is just a way for their brains to relax. As long as they can read it with a critical head on.

The Guardian reviewed a handful of chicklit books in a column this weekend. It was a serious review but found very little good to say about any of them, and some were hardbacks £16 and £20 each! Poorly written, oh-so-perfect life heroines one couldn't warm to, stilted dialogue, were among some criticisms. I wonder who buys them? I had thought that publishers were getting tired of this genre...
Guest

Caro i can tell you wat appealed to ur grand daughter the most about twilight. well for one thing ita a romance and not any kind of romance.
i love stephanie meyer i find her writings fascinating. the way she overcomes the character of bella in the book is magnificent it was as if she was in the book. What would mostly appealto ur granddaughter is the unconditional love that is created throughtout the series. I fell in love with twilight that i fenishe all the books in one day.
although iw ould adviseyou to take away such books from ur grand duaghter before she starts having fantasies like me and start wondering who from the guys around her might be drawn to her in such a strong way. cuz then when she decides it will be hard for her to imagine it was †just a criush.Lived those days cried all the time.
Apple

Hello Anusa (and a belated welcome from me to the Big Readers board!!) Very Happy

If you like Twilight I'd suggest the author Charlaine Harris and her Sookie Stackhouse series of books, the first is called Dead until Dark - the Twilight series is (in my honest opinion) a cheap rip off of these books as the stories are very similar.  Except the heroine - Sookie is far more feisty and and has more about her than Bella who is quite frankly a needy helpless drip.
Guest

Thanx Apple, however im not a fan of these kind of stuff i like the romance in it alright but i dont like the world of fantasy too much. i dont like it but beacuse sometimes the glisten in the sun it gets kinda attractive. (shhhh Wink )

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