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iwishiwas

Can you spell?

I always thought I could spell well. On this quiz I only got 14 correct. I am ashamed! Crying or Very sad
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/q...feb/09/spelling-society-quiz-test
Chibiabos83

I got 20 but struggled for quite a while on the one that pertains to coconut (not wishing to give answers away).
TheRejectAmidHair

Yes, I can spell.... but unfortunately,  I can't type! Crying or Very sad

I was a bit surprised by some of the alternatives offered. Does anyone really think there's an "r" before the "k" in the word "awkward"?
iwishiwas

Chib ~ I was far too blase and didn't spend much time on any! Needless to say I got that one wrong!
county_lady

16/20 Embarassed

my excuse is that I go cross-eyed after reading a screen for too long and start to see double letters where there aren't any.
MikeAlx

I was quite surprised to get 20. I thought I would inevitably slip up somewhere. I was particularly pleased to get the "thousand years" one right, as it's one that I always have a mental block over - I usually panic and reach for the dictionary!
Gul Darr

I got two wrong, but it doesn't appear to say which ones!
MikeAlx

If you click 'show answers' it should do.

I would like to dedicate my score to Mrs Miller, whose weekly spelling tests filled me with dread when I was 7 (having spent most of my time at Infants' School drawing pictures of Evel Knieval and learning nothing). Though to be fair, I feared her tables tests even more!
Chibiabos83

I looked forward to tables tests, not because I particularly enjoyed them myself but because there was a girl in my class who, rather against the norm for children, said 'th' sounds instead of 'f' and 'v' - meaning that where one child would say 'finger and fumb' she would say 'thinger and thumb'. I'm sure it was early evidence of my sadistic streak that I enjoyed watching her struggle with 'elethen thors are thorty-thor' and the like.
Gul Darr

MikeAlx wrote:
If you click 'show answers' it should do.

I tried it again and I got 20/20! I didn't intentionally give any different answers so maybe it's either my eyesight or mouse-handling skills which are to blame! Laughing
MikeAlx

Chibiabos83 wrote:
I'm sure it was early evidence of my sadistic streak that I enjoyed watching her struggle with 'elethen thors are thorty-thor' and the like.

Reminds me of a joke about a woman similarly afflicted who is seduced by a certain Scandinavian god. The punchline is: "You're Thor - what about me?". You can guess the middle bit.  Smile
Gino

Not surprisingly I scored only 9 out of 20 but at least I know I need a spell checker and always use one.
Spellchecker says OK !
lunababymoonchild

I got 16 out of 20, which is about average for me.

Luna
Thursday Next

19. I can never spell the final word (won't say what it is for those yet to do the quiz), no matter how many times I try to learn it I have a panic whenever I need to write it, but oddly, that wasn't the one I slipped up on this time.
bookfreak

Not bad - I managed 19 out of 20, getting the thousand years wrong.

What drives me absolutely nuts is to see teachers ignore incorrect spelling in my 12-yr old grandson's school work, the consequence of which is that he thinks spelling doesn't matter.   The final straw came the day I found the history teacher had
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a word that he had in fact spelled correctly in the first place.   I wanted to correct her correction but my grandson would not let me do so, even though he accepted that she had been wrong!
Funnily enough, the teachers of Maltese, Italian and French seem very keen on spelling but the English teacher is very lax.
bookfreak

Sorry, got my quote button wrong!
Chibiabos83

Another memory has returned to me - I never thought of myself as a bastard at school, but it dawns on me that I could be quite cruel at times. A student music teacher on a placement once 'corrected' my accurate spelling of the word 'symphony's' to 'symphonies', and I approached her after the lesson and explained her mistake. I hasten to add this wasn't customary behaviour, but I must have been annoyed. I don't know if she became a fully fledged teacher in the end, but I can't have helped her confidence. What an arse I was...
TheRejectAmidHair

Gareth, I think you were quite correct. A teacher should be expected to know simple spelling - and it doesn't matter whether or not she is a student teacher or a fully fledged teacher.
Caro

Ah, big relief to someone who thinks they are a good speller.  20 correct.  I was in two minds over the last one, which is a bit of a disgrace for someone involved in surveys for years.  I would find it much harder to spell these out loud; I can 'see' easily the correct spelling when it is written down, especially if there are alternatives which are obviously wrong.  

I don't have any trouble with the centenery year one - it has the excessive number of letters, as does the one about a place to stay.

I think spelling is over-rated really and it doesn't bother me much if teachers aren't perfect spellers.  I am a very good speller and a lousy teacher; my husband and sons are not so great at spelling but they can teach.  And I know which the kids would rather have in front of them.

Cheers, Caro.
Apple

I'm in shock I got 17/20 which is much better than I thought I would get!

Caro - One of my daughters teachers at primary school was lousy at easy words once she was pointing out my daughters errors and made a mistake herself so I couldn't help myself I corrected her comments as she had done my daughters. But then again she was lousy at spelling AND a lousy teacher as well!
MikeAlx

I've heard teachers complain that they are expected to correct spellings nowadays, but weren't corrected themselves as schoolchildren so don't know the correct spellings. I find it a bit strange though; you'd think anyone who'd done a reasonable amount of reading would have picked them up anyway, unless they genuinely suffer from dyslexia.

The words in this quiz are mostly well-known 'difficult' words; many of them feature on the Pitman Secretarial College's '120 worst spelling demons'. Thus the test is really measuring one's knowledge of exceptions rather than rules.
TheRejectAmidHair

Caro wrote:
I think spelling is over-rated really and it doesn't bother me much if teachers aren't perfect spellers.


But Gareth's story was not about "perfect spelling": it was about a teacher who could not even distinguish between possession and plurality, and I honestly don't think  that someone so lacking in basic literacy has any business being in front of a class. Even if she does have the ability to teach, what exactly will be the quality of the material she will be teaching?
MikeAlx

I think it partly depends what one is teaching. For instance, I had a very good chemistry teacher who was not great at spelling and grammar. He admitted as much, and sometimes checked with the class whether he'd got something right or not. But he was an exceptionally good chemistry teacher. Now, had he been teaching English (or a general teacher at primary school level), that would have been a different matter.
Caro

Hello Himadri,

I think there would be a lot of teachers who don't manage the use of the apostrophe and don't understand the plural/possessive thing.  And I suspect a lot whose knowledge of the English language is considerably more limited than that.  For most subjects it won't matter much and if a teacher is otherwise inspirational or interesting I doubt that children will be particularly disadvantaged.  

Cheers, Caro.
TheRejectAmidHair

Caro, even admitting that, I can't see there's any excuse for a teacher actually "correcting" a pupil who had got it right in the first place - especially in something so very basic as this. The message given in such a case is that correctess does not really matter too much.

I don't see any problem with Mike's example of the good chemistry teacher who was not so good with spelling and grammar, but who admitted as much, and would, indeed, check with the class if he'd got it right. At least he is not teaching the children anything that is incorrect. But no matter what subject the teacher specialises in, I really do not find it at all acceptable that the teacher should teach children wrong things. That is pure incompetence. We wouldn't accept such sloppy standards from a doctor, say, so why from a teacher?
Evie

People should not be teachers of any subject if they don't know simple rules of English grammar such as how to use an apostrophe.
lunababymoonchild

Evie wrote:
People should not be teachers of any subject if they don't know simple rules of English grammar such as how to use an apostrophe.


Hear, hear.

When I was at school every teacher we came across corrected our grammar even as we spoke upon entering the classroom.  It was very much 'if it takes place in my classroom, then it's going to be correct'.  Naturally, at the time we all hated it and thought that it was wrong, but as an adult now I appreciate it a great deal because it means that I'm literate.

Luna
Apple

Himadri Wrote:
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I really do not find it at all acceptable that the teacher should teach children wrong things. That is pure incompetence. We wouldn't accept such sloppy standards from a doctor, say, so why from a teacher?


I totally agree even I with my really basic level of education could see screaming errors in this particular teachers teaching time after time I corrected her - after looking them up and checking I'd got my facts straight!

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