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What do you think about the concept of an e-book?
I'm against it. Books should stay in book form
14%
 14%  [ 4 ]
I think it's a good idea, but it's not one that I'll be taking up
59%
 59%  [ 16 ]
It's a great idea! Finally, technology has caught up with books! More people are going to start reading! The future is here!
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
It doesn't really matter. All that matters are the words
22%
 22%  [ 6 ]
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Not_Smart_Just_Lucky



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: The Sony Reader  Reply with quote

I haven't yet decided if I like the idea or not, so I thought I'd see what everyone else thinks about digital books.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a good look round this in Waterstones in Braehead - just outside Glasgow - and it's a heap o rubbish, in my opinion.

I like the principle of the idea but since I cannot hold the thing - long story, and too boring to reiterate here - it's pretty much pointless.  Also pointless, imho, is the fact that you cannot search Waterstones online e-book catalogue, the prices are the same as an ordinary paperback - actually I got Rebus 15 for cheaper in Tesco - and from what I can see of the ebook catalogue there's nothing there that I'd want to read anyway.   If you do want to download an ebook you have to download to your computer then plug the Sony reader in and transfer it.  Hardly convenient.

However, the Amazon Kindle - which can be dropped, they show in video, from a metre high - is interesting if ugly.  You can download books straight from their website to the Kindle, wherever (they say) you happen to be.  I haven't seen a real one yet so can't say more than that.

However, I've been interested in the prospect of ebooks and their readers for a while now, so I'll wait and see what happens.  

Luna


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am old-fashioned enough to enjoy handling books - i.e. printed matter on paper - but in practice, I don't really see a problem. After all, whatever it is you're reading, you are getting the same text whether you read from a book or from an electronic gadget. But once the technology starts developing further, then things will start to change. After all, why should an author bother describing a sunset, say, if you can get a beautiful 3-D graphic of a sunset on your electronic gadget at the press of a button? Pretty soon, why bother having words at all for anything?

If this thing catches on, then I can see a move away from the use of language to communicate, and greater use of graphics. In the long term, we could all become less literate and more visual. Perhaps that is happening already. And as I say, I am old-fashioned enough to regret that.

But as it stands at the moment, I don't see any problem.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like the idea.   I love books.  The feel and the smell and being able to curl up in bed with one, or lie in the bath and read.  And if you drop a book in the water, it doesn't electrocute you!   Laughing

And I spend enough time looking at a screen without reading a book on one as well!



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we all probably enjoy browsing, reading and handling books but it is the content that is the most important aspect to me, not the tactile experience so I really don't mind.

Being less literate and more visual was the case for most people at one time, so visual communication was important - whether through painting/drawing etc or acting and storytelling.

Technology will always develop (thank goodness) and as a result I'm happy listening to music on my mp3 player and just glad I don't have to cart those LPs around like I once had to do.


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Not_Smart_Just_Lucky



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MP3s are part of my conundrum. I have no problem listening to music in a digital format, yet seem unable to be able to embrace e-books in the same way. And it's not a fear of a more graphic form of language, as I enjoy reading graphic novels. There's just something I don't like about the idea.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, the tech's just not good enough yet - not convenient enough, anyway. I'd rather listen to a podcast novel or audiobook - at least my iPod fits in my pocket. Furthermore, I can listen whilst driving!

But at the end of the day it's the words that matter. I don't think an image of a sunset will ever replace a poet's description of one, so I'm not overly worried. TV didn't kill radio; video hasn't killed music (though God knows it's tried hard enough at times!). So I don't think we're heading for Fahrenheit 451 just yet.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something that occurred to me just recently, when I was pondering the Sony ebook reader was simply that I know, just by looking at the book even before I pick it up, what it is that I'm reading. The Sony remains the same regardless of what ebook you are reading. I thought that might be confusing - for me at any rate.

Another thing that I thought might be confusing is that I know, just by looking at the book and before I pick it up, how long the book is - by the thickness. You cannot tell this by the ebook reader, which remains the same. All these visual cues exist for me. Perhaps the non-varying plain jacketed electronic reader somehow sanitises the reading experience and thus detracts from it a little bit. There's also something odd about having to switch something on if you want to read a book, somehow. I just open my paperback and off I go (then again, I seem to have no problem switching on my light in order to read).

I haven't had any ebook reader in my possession so evaluating it is somewhat problematic and I have to say that what I've seen of the Sony the tiny flash that you get every time you turn a page was enough to put me right off.

Not caught up with MP3 yet, it's old fashioned CD's that I use. Maybe I'd listen to music more often if I did have an MP3 player.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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quote="miranda"]I don't like the idea.   I love books.  The feel and the smell and being able to curl up in bed with one, or lie in the bath and read.  And if you drop a book in the water, it doesn't electrocute you!   Laughing

And I spend enough time looking at a screen without reading a book on one as well!
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I agree with you - the tactile senses have to be satisfied.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have their uses, as far as I'm concerned, but it's not for fiction. I can easily see how useful they could be to students, engineers, doctors, programmers, etc. because they could be a one stop shop for non-fiction and reference titles. For students, getting their Marketing/Finance/Really Boring titles available in eBook format, readable by these gadgets, would no doubt free up some more beer tokens, given that the cost of a 40 book would drop substantially, once printing, distribution, etc. is taken out of the equation.

Readers are often touted on their selling points, which is that you can port more of your bought books around with you at one time. Oh, goody. But once you lose it, there goes your whole collection.

Amazon's Kindle is a shocker, and like iTunes in that you can only use their format. It doesn't give you the freedom to do with your books if it was, well, a book.




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